Newbies Beware: Stay Away From Sportsbook.com

[cdsmoney]

. . . . and don't drink the kool-aid.

I don't usually comment on these forums, between pharmacy school and work there just isn't much time, but the recent ADMITTED theft by sportsbook.com, is enough to even get me typing.

While the RX stance about the banner is more than beyond questionable to me, it is their business to run. However, it has been my experience decisions like this are long-term detrimental to companies. Time will tell, given that the new-world business of internet forums/advertising is still in its infancy.

Since it has been stated multiple times WE are the watchdogs and not the business, I am taking a suggestion from another poster (either five-doors or five-star) in another thread to start a title that might keep the unsespecting from heading down the path or robbery that is Sportsbook.com.

Admittedly, I would like to see this thread front and center on a daily basis, but, as stated previously, I'm often here for some of the quality analysis on Saturday and Sunday only. Anyone that can lend a hand, all help would be appreciated (Time To Pay - I know you're on a lot. Hope you know I don't know you from Adam and am just breaking balls).

Good luck to all players involved in the theft. And, again, NEWBIES BEWARE OF THIS SPONSOR.

 

[PO69]

I wouldnt call it theft, and this thread is not needed on this forum.


The guy were parlaying 1st bets with full game spreads. You cant do that and ANY better who has been around knows that.


These guys were taking shots at the biggest book in world and got caught.



Now I also dont think that sportsbook should have seized all of the funds, but there really is no correct solution here. Maybe they can return 305 of the money

 

[steaktartar]

I wouldnt call it theft, and this thread is not needed on this forum.


The guy were parlaying 1st bets with full game spreads. You cant do that and ANY better who has been around knows that.


These guys were taking shots at the biggest book in world and got caught.



Now I also dont think that sportsbook should have seized all of the funds, but there really is no correct solution here. Maybe they can return 305 of the money

the majority of the bets in question from my understanding were games like usc -41 total 56(or whatever it was) folks doing first half and second halfs fav ov dog and under..........not the obvious example you just gave

 

[cdsmoney]

I wouldnt call it theft, and this thread is not needed on this forum.


The guy were parlaying 1st bets with full game spreads. You cant do that and ANY better who has been around knows that.


These guys were taking shots at the biggest book in world and got caught.



Now I also dont think that sportsbook should have seized all of the funds, but there really is no correct solution here. Maybe they can return 305 of the money

I guess, in a gentlemanly fashion, we'll disagree about definitions of theft - at the very least it is unjustified confiscation.

And, I will certainly agree that this IS needed on these forums. With the number of new people coming for information during the football season, many of them young/new gamblers, this warning is even more appropriate.

As always, this is just MY opinion.

 

[5starbomb]

I guess, in a gentlemanly fashion, we'll disagree about definitions of theft - at the very least it is unjustified confiscation.

And, I will certainly agree that this IS needed on these forums. With the number of new people coming for information during the football season, many of them young/new gamblers, this warning is even more appropriate.

As always, this is just MY opinion.

Exactly... they have the most popular url sportsbook.com just think of how many innocent newbies can get fucked over without knowing this info! That is why places like therx are great so we can share this type of info to help each other out!


:toast:

 

[PanchoSanza]

I wouldnt call it theft, and this thread is not needed on this forum.


The guy were parlaying 1st bets with full game spreads. You cant do that and ANY better who has been around knows that.


These guys were taking shots at the biggest book in world and got caught.



Now I also dont think that sportsbook should have seized all of the funds, but there really is no correct solution here. Maybe they can return 305 of the money

No one was parlaying 1st half bets to game spreads, you cant do it with their software.

Think you might wanna change your post in light of this.

 

[trixtrix]

I wouldnt call it theft, and this thread is not needed on this forum.


The guy were parlaying 1st bets with full game spreads. You cant do that and ANY better who has been around knows that.


These guys were taking shots at the biggest book in world and got caught.



Now I also dont think that sportsbook should have seized all of the funds, but there really is no correct solution here. Maybe they can return 305 of the money

please take time to research your facts before posting your opinion, NO SUCH PARLAYS TOOK PLACE!!

do you know why? first of all, the software DOES NOT allow it.

do you know what the software does allow? parlays of spread + total, that is only type of parlays that took place and that was what they retroactively stole the players from..

which brings up the question that if the software never allows you to parlay spread + spread in same game or total + total in same game, but do allow you to parlay spread + total. isn't the obvious assumption that the former would be considered an illegal form of "correlated parlay" and the latter a justified/allowed combo?

 

[Boston1]

The owner of this site or their moderators need to tell us what the formula is for a correlated parlay as to the exact numbers because I don't know and have been gambling for 35 years and I would say only a small percentage of posters here know the exact formulae also. If there is no set formula these guys need to pay.

 

[KennyB]

Many books allow you to parlay side and total in college and football games with big spreads. If the bet was accepted and they tried to cancel it after the game it is too late. They should pay up.

As a player I shouldn't have to question whether a bet will be cancelled after a game. If the bet was accepted and not cancelled before kickoff it should stand.

Otherwise the book could take a shot and then cancel it after the fact.

 

[PO69]

I remember 2 years ago when Oklahoma was favored by about 54 points in a game. The total was somthing like 63 or so.


At that time, alot of people took the underdog and the under in a parlay. Almost all books allowed them at that time.

But that was an example of a correlated parlay.

 

[PO69]

What % of games where the underdog covers does the game also go under? I am talking about everygame. I would think that 65% of the time that an underdog covers, the game also went under the total. Would that be about the correct number?

 

[steaktartar]

I remember 2 years ago when Oklahoma was favored by about 54 points in a game. The total was somthing like 63 or so.


At that time, alot of people took the underdog and the under in a parlay. Almost all books allowed them at that time.

But that was an example of a correlated parlay.

ya bet cris had to change there sfotware from softtech to there current because there wasnt a denial feature on softtech it was that or leave the totals off some games which they did at the end until they switched to their current software because these types of bets..i used to bet them (co-relates) up until 2003 they asked me to stop i did then later they had different software...alot of guys were playing them you cant lose betting them.........your oklahome example above was a good one

 

[PanchoSanza]

A lot of big books did take them years back, and not one of them pulled this crap.

They all paid up and re jigged their software so you couldn't hook up sides/totals with a large spread.

 

[TomBrady#1]

I wouldnt call it theft, and this thread is not needed on this forum.


The guy were parlaying 1st bets with full game spreads. You cant do that and ANY better who has been around knows that.


These guys were taking shots at the biggest book in world and got caught.



Now I also dont think that sportsbook should have seized all of the funds, but there really is no correct solution here. Maybe they can return 305 of the money

If you have no clue whatsoever what happened then you have no business posting above. People like you screw up the facts and make a mockery of this when it is a bad situation.

 

[Fishhead]

Many books allow you to parlay side and total in college and football games with big spreads. If the bet was accepted and they tried to cancel it after the game it is too late. They should pay up.

As a player I shouldn't have to question whether a bet will be cancelled after a game. If the bet was accepted and not cancelled before kickoff it should stand.

Otherwise the book could take a shot and then cancel it after the fact.

Short and easy policy.........nuff said...........UNLESS AN OBVIOUS BAD LINE EXISTED, WHEN IN THIS CASE THE WAGER CAN AND SHOULD BE CANCELLED.........AS THAT IS IN THE RULES.

If a book accepts a so called and alleged 'CORRELATED PARLAY"........they should honor it and pay it.

 

[Boston1]

Fishhead, if this your stance why don't you guys tell Sportsbook.com to pay up or quit supporting their advertisement? Don't you feel this has a sense of hypocrisy? Don't go back to the Ken Weitzner whoever can pay me more days.

 

[viking611]

Fishhead, if this your stance why don't you guys tell Sportsbook.com to pay up or quit supporting their advertisement? Don't you feel this has a sense of hypocrisy? Don't go back to the Ken Weitzner whoever can pay me more days.

Fishhead is no longer a mod here...not sure they would have much say in this matter anyhow. $$$ talks.

 

[Timetopay]

Fish has nothing to do with it and admire his stance on the subject.

PO you seem to make yoursefl look dumber every day.

As far as this thread it will probably be moved to RR or name changed and its unfortunate.

 

[Boston1]

How do you have 62,000+ posts and not be a moderator? Anyway how can any moderator not agree with Fishhead unless they're told not to by the owners. Money does talk like I said earlier and this group of Yokels are turning out to be no better than the Shrink days. It's a shame necause it looked like this crew was turning it around when they took over. Players are better off playing with ESB and the Atiyeh boys because atleast they take correlated plays and will only stiff you if you win big. Dam you mightr as well advertise here and get hundreds of new players then not pay them. That is what is happening here.

 

[PO69]

Well TimeToPay, as usual you dont really add anything to the thread!